|3.8 Jaguar E-Type||Indigo|
|Open Two Seater|
|Right Hand Drive|
|14 April 1961||Great Britain|
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Record Creation: Entered on 22 January 2004.
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2004-01-22 11:06:37 | pauls writes:
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This roadster was completed on April 14, and was reportedly Lofty England's car. In 1991 it was said to still exist, although in a dissembled state.
2004-04-21 10:10:17 | Anonymous writes:
Comment found on web dated March '03:
850004 was sold by Coy's in December, for almost exactly the same price as 850007 earlier in the year. £55,700 before buyers premium and VAT, compared with £57,000 for 850007.
I made contact with the owner in St. Helen's (not Ireland) who had had the car in his garage since 1974. At this time he and his dad ran a small back street garage, and 850004 was brought in for restoration, but the owner ran out of funds and disappeared, so the father and son team kept the car in payment of work done but not paid. When I saw the car in 1996 it was in pieces, as it had been since 1974. The monocoque was in one corner, with new sills welded in, in primer, the engine, gear box and carburettors on a truckle trolley still fresh from the '74 restoration but having never turned, and the rest of the car except the bonnet, which had been scrapped, in various boxes distributed about the place. I made efforts to buy the car, but we couldn't agree on a price, and I could well understand his reluctance since his dad let go a partially restored GT40 just before the boom of the late '80s and lost a fortune. So there it stayed, tantalisingly within reach but out of my price range – until now. With regards to the registration number – 1600 RW – I made contact with Swansea and it was reattributable and was last on the E-Type, so mention of a mini is somewhat spurious. And no, the car never went to Ireland either.
2004-11-09 09:27:44 | pauls writes:
Additional comments about this car sale found at:
Auction Preview: Coys at the Royal Horticultural Halls, London 5th December 2002
- by Charis Whitcombe
As Tony Dron pointed out in Classic Driver earlier this month, the Jaguar E-type of 1961 is, for many people, THE classic sportscar. Among all the production E-types in existence, however, the righthand drive Roadster for sale by Coys on 5th December, chassis 850004, has to be among the most interesting for sheer provenance – although it is a genuine barn-find, fit only for the most dedicated restorer.
This car is not only the first E-type ever sold, it was also bought new by none other than Jaguar’s own Competitions Manager, F.R.W. “Lofty” England. It was subsequently sold to “Tommy” Sopwith and then to Mike Parkes. Also at the Coys sale on 5th December is E-type chassis number 6 – once the possession of motorcycle champion Mike Hailwood.
2004-12-27 21:39:32 | Anonymous writes:
I was one of the two last bidders on this car. It was in awful shape however it had the correct dataplate motor trans and tub. The firewall was usable but not much else of the body. It was missing a number of really early parts which will be hard but not impossible to find. Richard Smith will know where to look.
2005-01-12 10:40:28 | pauls writes:
Additional info found on this car at:
The following is the text from the Forbes article dated 12/2/2002. The above black and white photo accompanied the aticle.
Based on the Le Mans-winning design of Jaguar D-Type racers, few cars have ever caused the sensation that the Jaguar E-Type did when it made its debut at the 1961 Geneva Motor Show.
The E-Type combined a potent 3.8-liter straight-six motor with an all-independent suspension. But far more important was one of the most elegant, sexy designs ever devised: Sure it could top 140 mph--but it looked dynamite standing still!
It also didn't hurt that Jaguar underpriced its rivals from Aston Martin and Ferrari by a huge margin.
That this particular car--chassis 850004, the first production E-type sold--has been rediscovered is quite a triumph as well. Jaguar was careful about who it allowed to buy the early examples off the production line. Hence, the list of early owners reads like a who's who of not just the motoring world, with prominent racing drivers, but members of the aristocracy and movie stars alike.
The first time out on the track for the E-Type of course led to a victory at the hands of legendary world champion Le Mans driver Graham Hill.
The first two E-Types were prototypes, and therefore crushed. Number three was another car pressed into use by the factory; it became the road test car, being driven by all the major motoring magazines of the period--and then became Jaguar's own show car.
The first car to be sold to a private owner--the one in the image above and to be sold by Coys of Kensington in London this Thursday--was originally owned by Jaguar's competitions manager, the highly respected F.R.W. 'Lofty' England. He used the car on the road and in several apprentices' club events, but the car was also used for numerous publicity events. It eventually changed owners several times and finally fell into the hands of its current seller, who for the last 25 years has meant to finish a lengthy restoration, but never has.
Thus it remains dismantled, awaiting assembly and full restoration. Odd, you might think, that anyone would pay for a defunct car, yes? Well the third production E-Type, also in a state of total disrepair, sold for over $100,000 earlier this year.
Early E-Types had a very annoying flaw: a shallow foot well that greatly reduced legroom. The lot of these first cars came to be known as "flat-floor" XKEs.
Interestingly, however, both convertible and coupe versions of these earlier vintages still garner a decent bid ($25,000 to $50,000, depending on condition) even though later, 4.2-liter cars were said to be far better.
The bigger, 4.2-liter cars had more torque, but, just as important, from 1964 on, the E-Type had much better brakes than the original car and a far easier-to-shift gearbox. Nevertheless, 1964 to 1967 E-Types don't cost more at auction as you might expect.
2005-08-17 07:00:05 | Robert writes:
sold at Coys London 5th Dec 2002 hammer price incl prem £63783 rEG # 1600 RW Cond 5 year 1961
2007-09-07 07:57:06 | pauls writes:
Car is the subject of a current ('07) restoration series in "The E-Type" magazine. Car is now bright red with buscuit interior.
2014-04-30 13:11:06 | pauls writes:
Car restored by CMC:
'Lofty' England's E-type - Chassis Number 4
'Lofty' England was the legendary Jaguar Team Manager who masterminded Jaguar's five Le Mans wins in the '50s, before becoming Managing Director of Jaguar Cars. He hand-picked the first owners of the very early E-Types and allocated himself the fourth right hand drive roadster.
Classic Motor Cars carried out a total renovation of this famous car, including rebuilding the XK engine, restoring the bodywork, painting, assembling and retrimming the car.
2022-01-12 11:25:14 | david writes:
just watching the edgar wallace mystery theatre man at the carlton tower on talking pictures tv this car is in this film